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Gear Theorycrafting
by Reaper Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:39 pm
T10.5H DK chest Piece http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51310
Stats:
Wretched WoW T1
Stats:
To me, this doesn't look right. I believe you should take the T10.5 stats and round them out to this:
And since we're level 100, instead of 80, the gear stats need to be higher. I believe if you multiplied that stats by 1.75 and round them off, would make perfect stats for the T1. For armor, after you multiplied it by 1.75, divide it by half.
Now for the next tier. Currently the stats are:
Forget them. All you need to do is add 150 to each stat so the T2 should now look like this (Armor add 100):
And do that for all the tiers to come. This will allow more tiers without making players over powered.
Now, for PvP Gear. We're pretty much doing the same thing. S8 DK Chest stats http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51413:
(Not showing Wretched WoW S1 Chest) Round the stats from the S8 off:
Multiply them by 1.75 and divide armor by half:
Now for the S2, add 50 to resil, 100 to armor, and 150 to the rest.
Then the same to the next seasons.
And that's my thought on how gear should be made. If you need any other example, such as a Tank, or Mage, or whatever, just ask.
Stats:
- 2756 Armor
- 193 Strength
- 209 Stamina
- 122 Critical Strike Rating
- 106 Armor Penetration
Wretched WoW T1
Stats:
- 1600 Armor
- 650 Strength
- 900 Stamina
- 99 Armor Penetration
- 651 Critical Strike Rating
To me, this doesn't look right. I believe you should take the T10.5 stats and round them out to this:
- 3000 Armor
- 200 Strength
- 200 Stamina
- 100 Critical Strike Rating
- 100 Armor Penetration
And since we're level 100, instead of 80, the gear stats need to be higher. I believe if you multiplied that stats by 1.75 and round them off, would make perfect stats for the T1. For armor, after you multiplied it by 1.75, divide it by half.
- 2625 Armor
- 350 Strength
- 350 Stamina
- 175 Critical Strike Rating
- 175 Armor Penetration
Now for the next tier. Currently the stats are:
- 1600 Armor
- 775 Strength
- 1050 Stamina
- 675 Critical Strike Rating
- 100 Armor Penetration
Forget them. All you need to do is add 150 to each stat so the T2 should now look like this (Armor add 100):
- 2725 Armor
- 500 Strength
- 500 Stamina
- 325 Critical Strike Rating
- 325 Armor Penetration
And do that for all the tiers to come. This will allow more tiers without making players over powered.
Now, for PvP Gear. We're pretty much doing the same thing. S8 DK Chest stats http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51413:
- 2694 Armor
- 155 Strength
- 257 Stamina
- 98 Critical Strike Rating
- 114 Resilience
(Not showing Wretched WoW S1 Chest) Round the stats from the S8 off:
- 3000 Armor
- 200 Strength
- 300 Stamina
- 100 Critical Strike Rating
- 100 Resilience
Multiply them by 1.75 and divide armor by half:
- 2625 Armor
- 350 Strength
- 525 Stamina
- 175 Critical Strike Rating
- 175 Resilience
Now for the S2, add 50 to resil, 100 to armor, and 150 to the rest.
- 2725 Armor
- 500 Strength
- 675 Stamina
- 325 Critical Strike Rating
- 225 Resilience
Then the same to the next seasons.
And that's my thought on how gear should be made. If you need any other example, such as a Tank, or Mage, or whatever, just ask.
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Reaper Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:47 pm
My math should be dead on, but correct me if I'm not. Armor may need to be reduced a little more. This will work on ANY gear.
This is the new T1 DK chest piece:
- 2625 Armor
- 350 Strength
- 350 Stamina
- 175 Critical Strike Rating
- 175 Armor Penetration
This is the new S1 DK chest piece:
- 2625 Armor
- 350 Strength
- 525 Stamina
- 175 Critical Strike Rating
- 175 Resilience
This is the new T2 DK chest piece:
- 2725 Armor
- 500 Strength
- 500 Stamina
- 325 Critical Strike Rating
- 325 Armor Penetration
This is the new S2 DK chest piece:
- 2725 Armor
- 500 Strength
- 675 Stamina
- 325 Critical Strike Rating
- 225 Resilience
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Softserve Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:59 pm
definitely agree with what hes pushing forward. take the already balanced stats of the 3.3.5 patch and just upgrade it. Armor and armor pen will have to be regulated along with resilience but that would be the most simple and realistic way to balance the gear. But let us not forget its not just gear that needs balancing, classes are still being scaled.
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Reaper Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:06 pm
Arp isn't that big of a deal as long as it's kept down with the other stats. I've done DB work for years, and I love making retail like gear.
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Softserve Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:40 pm
Reaper wrote:Arp isn't that big of a deal as long as it's kept down with the other stats. I've done DB work for years, and I love making retail like gear.
It can get out of hand just like any other stat
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Reaper Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:39 pm
Yeah yeah. I just wish I knew what the Admins were thinking.
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Softserve Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:46 pm
Reaper wrote:Yeah yeah. I just wish I knew what the Admins were thinking.
I'd assume since they're so far into the current build that it would take a lot of time away from updating content to overhaul the gear system. I'm sure the idea has been thrown around but if not, it is now. Like I tell pretty much everyone, its a small team, they're working diligently to get constant updates and content coming out, whilst at the same time balancing.
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Reaper Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:51 pm
Well, if they needed someone to make gear...haha
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Softserve Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:54 pm
Reaper wrote:Well, if they needed someone to make gear...haha
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Reaper Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:54 pm
Idk man. I'd get ocd and have to redo all the gear...
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Softserve Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:57 pm
Reaper wrote:Idk man. I'd get ocd and have to redo all the gear...
Haha, if you think you have something to bring to the staff then you may as well try, whats the worst that could happen? Maybe avenger will nerf your main into the ground, but that's not so bad.
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Reaper Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:57 pm
I've been waiting for something to happen to rogues...
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Reaper Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:58 pm
Sorry for double post. But ill try when i get home. Im on my phone so yea lol
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Softserve Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:05 pm
Reaper wrote:Sorry for double post. But ill try when i get home. Im on my phone so yea lol
Haha, I'm at the mall with my girlfriend, remote desktop is so convinient.
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Softserve Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:10 pm
Reaper wrote:Lol im at an outdoor mall
We're probably sitting at the same bench, are you a 250 lbs African American man?
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Reaper Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:14 pm
No. 190 6ft somewhat fit red headed white guy with a beard. Are you a 20 something year old chick, hot af?
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Softserve Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:16 pm
Reaper wrote:No. 190 6ft somewhat fit red headed white guy with a beard. Are you a 20 something year old chick, hot af?
You caught me!
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Rownan Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:26 pm
While your scaling would work to keep the low rate stats 3.3.5 feel you also need to think about all the other things that woul require change, such as all the mobs band raid boss encounters to fit the newly stated players. Again while your idea is fairly good the work behind it would basically be a server revamp.
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Softserve Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:34 pm
Rownan wrote:While your scaling would work to keep the low rate stats 3.3.5 feel you also need to think about all the other things that woul require change, such as all the mobs band raid boss encounters to fit the newly stated players. Again while your idea is fairly good the work behind it would basically be a server revamp.
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Re: Gear Theorycrafting
by Softserve Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:58 pm
I think it's something to keep in mind on a test server, with a full team contributing. We all get burned out after a while. It would take so much time to revamp. We're talking literally changing every single boss, every single piece of gear with stats on it, every event. It's impractical now, but definitely something to look at when there is a full staff prepared to take that step.
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